Ismail Ax

BLACKSBURG, Va. — The suspected gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, Cho Seung-Hui, was a troubled 23-year-old senior from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room, sources say.The note included a rambling list of grievances, according to sources. They said Cho also died with the words “Ismail Ax” in red ink on the inside of one of his arms. Link

The only Google links I can find for “Ismail Ax” take me to the Koran.

Any ideas?






Ibrahim did not forget his son, but kept visiting him from time to time. Once Ibrahim dreamed that Allah was commanding him to slaughter Ismail, and Ibrahim decided to carry out this divine command. So, he put forth this to his son to test his faith. Ismail agreed and told him to do whatever he is commanded to do and that he will be loyal and content.

As they both surrendered to Allah’s fate and divine decree, Ibrahim began to slaughter him from his nape but the knife did not cut. Miraculously, Allah (swt) redeemed him with a great slaughtering (ram), and so Ibrahim passed Allah’s test with flying colors .

UPDATE (4/18/2007)

For those that followed a comment link in this blog to a flickr account yesterday, Debbie Schlussel has a comment from the person that took the photograph. I repeatedly checked the WordPress “eldarossell” blog yesterday for clarification, but all I found was a  couple day old post. I can only occasionally moderate posts.

25 Responses to “Ismail Ax”

  1. ismail ax Says:

    Follow the links to see just what this dude was up to:

    He was no innocent.

    Please see UPDATE and link for information relating to this picture!

  2. Ula Gajko Says:

    I find it quite interesting how he signed HIS note “Isamil Ax” & scribbled the same on his arm in red ink.

    “Isamil Ax” is probably in French. Ismail is a first name & AX means leading or centering. It is hard to translate literally.

    But, Ismail means “Listening by God” in Arabic or “God will hear” in Hebrew

    So depending on how you look at it the Kid was trying to be head & make a point.

    South Koreans are mainly Buddhists, so using the Koran as a reference point does not make a whole lot of sense, unless the shooter was exploring different religions. If his parents were Buddhist, he may have felt isolated from them as well.

    Ismail al-Masawabi was a 23 year old Muslim Suicide bomber who is considered a Martyr by his people. This shooter may have been trying to be a martyr.

    I’m not sure how this kid was doing in school, but from what I read about his family, his sister attended Princeton, so if he was always being compared to her & was not as scholastically inclined, he may have felt pressured. It fascinating that he picked the “engineering building” as well as the dorms.
    I would venture to guess that his parents pushed him academically, maybe towards engineering, but he did not have the intellect to cut it. Maybe he was just more into creative writing, because he used it as an outlet for his angst. I would think his immigrant parents did not approve of his educational path because not much money can be made in “creative writing.”

    If no one was paying any attention to him then, he’s the center of the news now.

  3. abu ameerah Says:

    What a load of crap…

    ya’ll are just trying your best to link this to Muslims…

  4. Peter Says:

    Are you an idiot? If you google for little more than 2 seconds you will find that there are many references to the (common) name Ismail. Ishmael (same meaning different spelling) appears in the Bible, the Torah and the Koran with the same basic story. Check wikipedia.

  5. Daniel Says:

    uh, wikipedia is not the ultimate arbiter of truth or fact.

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  7. ChenZhen Says:

    Hey ec, how the heck do you keep showing up on the ‘fastest growing’ list?

  8. ChenZhen Says:

    LOL nevermind…I showed up on there again too. 🙂

  9. nads Says:

    There are many links in every religious book to “Ismail Ax”
    its nearly impossible to figure out exactly what he wanted it to mean.
    it could have just been a statement of immortality.

  10. zenkerin Says:

    ah.. wassup! after that tragedy of prophet ibrahim and his son ismail, it’s not gonna happen again today. don’t worry. it’s not going to be linked to that tragedy.

  11. boeddi Says:

    ” ismail ax = ismailax = is mai lax = is my luck “

  12. totaltransformation Says:

    Interesting discussion. I am going to chime in with an “it’s too early to know what it means” comment.

  13. John Says:

    I smell ax, meaning he smells himself or ass

  14. raincoaster Says:

    I wonder why he was officially a resident alien when he’d been in the US since he was eight? Weird. And nobody has mentioned him practicing Islam, just this name. Again, a loaded piece of information almost stunningly void of context.

  15. ana Says:

    In the Quran Ismail uses an axe to put down the pagan gods…

  16. JR.Inghram Says:

    I thought it was not legal for a first generation imigrant to own or purchase a gun of any sort. What happened that he was able to walk into a gun shop , fill out the paper work and walk out of there armed ?

    Certainly , I am not for a total ban of guns because if every one with a clean record and generations of good Americans behind them is packing then in short order majority will rule and I believe 99% of Americans are good people.

    Still , it is a question that should be answered.

  17. captaindemocracy Says:

    Captain Democracy discovers the “ZODIAC KILLER in San Francisco Senior Citizen Housing disguised as an elderly gray haired women/ an old man hiding from the “ARM of THE LAW”. Larry King Live seeks exclusive interview with the ZODIAC prior his arrest Larry has offered $1,000000.00 dollars cash for the whereabouts of ZODIAC and exclusive interview..

    The Captain also says that Virginia Tech shooter was an Al Queda sleeper shooter who is sending Bin Laden a message by shooting up the Engineering Department, Bin Laden is an Engineer himself. The two guns also send a message to other Al Queda sleepers across America that pistols are the weapon of choice, an exacution tool of STALINISM which is what the Middle East Governments are “BAATH PARTY”. This is just the beginning of Terrorism in America and Americans have issued there own demise by the “CUT and RUN” of Nancy Pelosi and The U.S. Congress. The Captain also informs me that April 20th will most likely be the next Al Queda attack in America. April 20th is ADOLF HITLER’S BIRTHDAY. Iran a supporter of terrorism and hate of America (The Great Satan) has had a forum in honor of HITLER recently. The Captain is America’s best crime and terror fighter and watch out for April 20th, stay at home do not attend school or classes. We must stand united with the President of The United States not the weak policies of Democrats, weakness invites aggression.

    Robert E. McCullough B.A., Arch.

  18. Whothehellis? Says:

    ^^ Wow. I guess its about time someone created a wacked out conspiracy supporting the government. However, living in fear is not how we need to respond to this. He should have never killed 33 people. Someone could have rushed him. O and by the way those weak democratic policies are what keep you free you pathetic brainwashed fool. It’s the conservatives and their blind support of things like the patriot act that will be the end of freedom. And with the end of freedom will be the end of America. By the way . Terrorism IS close but not for the reasons your broadcasting.

  19. paleo Says:

    Wow, is the moon full or something? Two in a row.

  20. don Says:

    Wait for the copy cat killers that want to be famous when they die…”another tragedy in a city mall in New York city claims 47 lives as the mad shooter sprayed bullets into a crowd with two Uzi machine guns.”

  21. Thetruth Says:

    The following passages come from the web site IslamiCity. The address is I have left some paragraphs out for respect of the lengh of this blog/bulletin, however the legend in its totality can be found at the address stated previously.

    Ibrahim was born in a house of idolaters, in the kingdom of Babylon. His father Aazar was a well known idol sculptor that his people worshipped. As a young child, Ibrahim used to watch his father sculpting these idols from stones or wood. When his father was done with them, Ibrahim would use them as toys, riding on their backs, and kicking them at times. Then after a while, he would see these same statues in the temple, and people prostrating in front of them! Ibrahim asked his father: “Why do you take these toys to the temple?” His father said: “They are statues that represent our gods. We worship them, we ask favors from them, and we offer them presents.” Ibrahim’s mind rejected this idea, and he felt a repulsion towards the idols.

    Time went by, and Ibrahim became a young man. He still could not believe that his people were worshipping the statues. He laughed whenever he saw them entering the temple, lowering their heads, silently offering the statues the best of their food, crying and asking forgiveness from them. He started feeling angry towards his people, who could not realize that these are only stones that could neither benefit nor harm them. They could not be gods, they have no power. God is Greater than what his people were worshipping, Most Powerful, Most Magnificent. One could not find Him sitting on a table in a temple!
    One night, Ibrahim went up to the mountain, leaned against a rock, and looked up to the sky. He saw a shining star, and told his people: “Could this be my Lord?” But when it set he said: “I don’t like those that set.” The star has disappeared, it could not be God. God is always present. Then he saw the moon rising in splendor and told them: “Could this be my Lord?” But it also set. At daybreak, he saw the sun rising and said: t “Could this be my Lord, this is bigger?” But when the sun set he said: “O my people I am free from all that you join as partners with Allah! I have turned my face towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to Allah.” Our Lord is the Creator of the heavens and the earth and everything. He has the power to make the stars rise and set. Ibrahim then heard Allah calling him: “O Ibrahim!” Ibrahim said trembling: “Here I am O my Lord!” “Submit to Me! Be a Muslim!” Ibrahim fell on the ground, prostrating and crying, he said: “I submit to the Lord of the universe!” Ibrahim kept prostrating until night came again. He got up and went back to his home, in t peace, full of conviction that Allah has guided him to the Truth.

    He left his father after he lost hope to convert him to the right path, and directed his efforts towards the people of the town, but they rejected his call and threatened him. By Allah, he said, I shall plot a plan to destroy their idols. He knew that a big celebration was coming soon, where everybody would leave town for a big feast on the riverbank. After making sure that nobody was left in town, Ibrahim went towards the temple armed with an ax. Statues of all shapes and sizes were sitting there adorned with decorations. Plates of food were offered to them, but the food was untouched. “Well, why don’t you eat? The food is getting cold.” He said to the statues, joking; then with his ax he destroyed all the statues except one, the biggest of them. He hung the ax around its neck and left.

    How big was the shock when the people entered the temple! They gathered inside watching in awe their gods broken in pieces. They wondered who might have done this? Then they all remembered that the young Ibrahim was talking evil of their idols. They brought him to the temple and asked him: “Are you the one who has done this to our gods?” Ibrahim said: “No, this statue, the biggest of them has done it. Ask them if they can speak.” “You know well that these idols don’t speak!” They said impatiently. “Then how come you worship things that can neither speak nor see, nor even fend for themselves? Have you lost your minds?”

    The story goes on to state that his people bound him and threw him in the fire,but allah delivered him from the fire free of his bonds.

    The legend continues with a debate between him and King Nimrod of Babylon, and then goes into the story of his relations with Hajar(Hagar) and their son Ismail(Ishmael). It also states that Ismail was the son that Ibrahim took to the mountain at allah’s request to be a sacrafice, but IN FACT we know that it was the LORD who told Abraham to take Isaac to the land of Moriah to be a burnt sacrafice.

    The meaning behind Ismail’s ax is that it was used to destroy the idols that were a sign of debauchery, corruption and sin. As a result we have yet another instance of pure evil brought about by young man with demonic evil Islamic extremest beliefs.
    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free!!! For we fight not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, and against spiritual wickedness in high places.

  22. voiceofreason Says:

    I’m sure you’ve heard the news by now about how the killer had “Ismael Ax” scribbled on his arm and he sent a package to NBC News with the return address (i.e. his address) bearing the name “A. Ishmail” — Why associate himself (a Korean whose name is Cho Seung-Hui) with Ishmael? Obviously he was cryptically indicating that he is a Muslim terrorist. Obviously “Ismael Ax” is broken foreign mangled English for Axe of Ishmael, and he is claiming to be Ishmael’s Axe or in other words, a Muslim executioner. He also made references to “martyrs” in his notes to NBC. But although NBC released the facts of what was scribbled on his arm and what the return address of his package is, they are too PC to mention what it indicates and what this means–America has been attacked again, by Islam. This is 911 all over again, but this time Bush and the media together will sweep it under the rug and make it all about gun control rather than Islam.

  23. Michael Says:

    Ok, I think that I remember reading somewhere in the “official” “news” reports that he was a Christian – NOT Muslim… Not stating that as fact, however, if someone can confirm or deny that – FACTUALLY! – NOT SOME WHACKED OUT THEORY!, It would be greatly appreciated…

    Also, if the theory that he was exposed to the story about the distruction of the idols and that he somehow adapted that as his guiding force is true, wouldn’t he see himself as a true ICONOCLAST?

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